Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Other Religion Visitation Evaluation


On Sunday, September 23, 2007, I and two other students visited “Kalachandji’s”, the ISKON (International Society for Krishna Consciousness) temple here in Dallas at 5430 Gurley Ave. I and two other classmates had an opportunity to observe and converse with the priest of the temple, Nityananda Chandra Das, and a devotee as well named Duane. As a whole I found this experience both challenging theologically and incredibly insightful for aid in future ministry and evangelism. I also found that most, if not all of my presuppositions about what I believed Hare Krishna and Hinduism to look like, and even be, were wrong.

Observance of a Feeding of the Deities

As I walked through the double doors of the temple sanctuary, what I heard and what I saw immediately conflicted. That is to say, while the sounds of the chanting and percussive instruments reminded me of Eastern Indian melodies and rhythms, the clothing and the wide variety of cultures represented were quite a shock to behold. Not only was the room filled with men and women from various national backgrounds, but the group was also multi-generational. Parents had their children with them, mothers danced while holding their newborn babies, fathers hoisted their son or daughter on their shoulders and danced. Individuals had their Motorola Razor phone strapped to their sides; others wore the traditional Sari but then a popular over-sized athletic t-shirt on top. Men were in front and women in the back. The aroma of the room was heavy with incense and the burning of the sacrifices to the various deities, although I was not able to see the sacrifice plainly from where I was standing.

One would think that given the above description, three Dallas Seminary students would not appear out of place, but this was not at all the case. There was nothing that I could recall in my life and up-bringing that would have prepared me to observe and interact within a known cultural framework. I was completely lost, and yet I found that part of me wanted to jump and participate in the dances and the chants, but I abstained for fear of acceptance and that I might profane the Lord’s name. Whether it was right or not to abstain, I’m not so sure. I can see how to participate may have served as a cultural bridge of witness, but perhaps I might have also found myself unintentionally causing another Christian brother, or for that matter, a Krishna devotee to fall into doubt about what the Christian walk is and how it should be taken.

One thing that I did recognize and sense in the worship service was that, as the music and the dancing became more and more frantic and louder in volume, I also began to experience a paranormal “pushing in” on me from the sides. I’m almost convinced that it was an oppressive spirit of which I was sensing; I have had several experiences like this where I have felt satanic oppression before, but I could have also been feeling the heavy vibrations of the percussive instruments and dancing. I’m still trying figure what it was that I sensed; the other students felt nothing.

Last we had the opportunity to sit and discuss with the temple priest and a devotee the basic belief framework of Hare Krishna, the Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, and their bases for their worldview and for existence. The priest spoke to us in Hindi at times and he also referenced other religious texts such as the Bible, Q’uran, and Near Eastern religious texts. We also had an opportunity to discuss ethics with them, and came to see that in the religion of Hare Krishna, it is very difficult to witness to them since they are so inclusive of the sayings and even the beliefs and doctrine of other faiths.

I came away from this experience weary for the Christian church here in Dallas. Having been in the metroplex for a little over two months, I have become increasingly aware of the pain and suffering that is present here. Moreover, I do not hear about, nor have I seen, the church reaching out to the men and women who are “living on the margins.” To speak candidly, when I read the article in NewsWeek entitled The New Capital of Evangelicalism I wanted to throw up! I see such an emphasis in this city on wealth, status, and fame. And at the same time, I drive to Seminary each morning and my heart breaks for the condition of the neighboring areas around the institution.

In my time at the ISKON temple, I came across a flyer and statistics that caused me to think and evaluate my own witness and the greater Dallas Christian witness. It was simply an organization called ISKON Food for Life who travels downtown and around the city twice a week and feeds the homeless and cares for the needy through spiritual encouragement and teaching. Now, while the spiritual aspect of this outreach should be and probably is alarming to Christians, we should also be concerned that an organization, such as this, is doing what Christ has called the church to do. And in Dallas, it doesn’t seem like many churches are doing this. I believe that there is much that we can learn from this culture and faith. There is a value of family, of your weaker brother or sister, and a preservation of beauty, of life and regard for humanity that evangelicalism has forgotten in many ways.

3 comments:

Rasaraj Das said...

As a regular practitioner of the Hare Krishna process of spiritual progress, I am impressed with your intense realizations in one visit to the temple. The Lord is not bound by faiths that have been created by man. He is only bound by the love of his devotees, and reciprocates within the heart of the devotee through the experience of intense ecstasy and sometimes feelings of separation.

The Hare Krishnas are interested in providing anyone belonging to any faith with a strong philosophical and spiritual process for progress in their spiritual lives. Please take advantage of this.

Casey Lanning said...

Hello Rasaraj das,

Thank you for stopping by and being willing to listen to my own thoughts and experiences at the Temple :o). I also highly value that you have taken time to read about my struggles that I am having with the majority church here in DFW.

My visit to the temple was very helpful and I was warmly accepted by the devotees and priest at the there. I was treated absolutely with respect and I do not take that lightly. In our Christian tradition, there have been those who have mistreated, harrassed, and abused men and women of other faiths in the name of our Lord - terrible!! What a slap in the face to the image of God and to God himself.

But Christ be praised that the true heart of the Christian message is acceptance and a relationship into a family. For, we love the Lord because he first loved us. I whole-heartedly beleive that there is nothing within me that I could bring to God that would make me righteous in his sight. Except, for casting myself on the cross of His Son Jesus Christ, I am without hope. I might aspire to love my neighbor as myself or to love the Lord with all my heart, soul, and mind, but I will always love in a self-consuming manner trying to get what I can out of it, rather than the love of self-sacrifice that Christ displayed in glory at the cross.

God is bigger than we believe he is. I continually compartmentalize God. But his mercy is available and new every morning and I come before him and tell him "Lord I blew it" and seek his forgiveness.

Thanks be to God for that. And I thank the Lord for you friend.

VEDA said...

Casey, thank you for your appreciation and insights. Let me comment, please.

>I also found that most, if not all of my presuppositions about what I believed Hare Krishna and Hinduism to look like, and even be, were wrong.

No wonder given the largely twisted view of 'Hinduism' (Vedic traditions) presented by Western academia and media.

>Men were in front and women in the back. The aroma of the room was heavy with incense and the burning of the sacrifices to the various deities, although I was not able to see the sacrifice plainly from where I was standing.

Actually, they should stand side by side. That way it was practiced in early ISKCON days.
You should have gone to the front. No one would object.

>challenging theologically and incredibly insightful for aid in future ministry and evangelism.

>There was nothing that I could recall in my life and up-bringing that would have prepared me to observe and interact within a known cultural framework. I was completely lost, and yet I found that part of me wanted to jump and participate in the dances and the chants, but I abstained for fear of acceptance and that I might profane the Lord’s name. Whether it was
right or not to abstain, I’m not so sure. I can see how to participate may have served as a cultural bridge of witness, but perhaps I might have also found myself unintentionally causing another Christian brother, or for that matter, a Krishna devotee to fall into doubt about what the Christian walk is and how it should be taken.

>in the religion of Hare Krishna, it is very difficult to witness to them since they are so inclusive of the sayings and even the beliefs and doctrine of other faiths.

This is called a cultural shock. ;)

Scriptures of monotheistic traditions, Bible included, encourage us to chant and sing Lord's name constantly: http://tinyurl.com/3xq2u4

Regarding witnessing to monotheist brothers, imho it's better to share what is common to us for mutual enrichment. Therefore Srila Prabhupada didn't ask his followers to go around and convert Jews, Christians and Muslims into Vaishnavas but encourage them to perfectly follow their ways (Matthew 5:48). We have many examples of saints worldwide that this is possible to achieve in this very life.

>I also began to experience a paranormal “pushing in” on me from the sides. I’m almost convinced that it was an oppressive spirit of which I was sensing; I have had several experiences like this where I have felt satanic oppression before, but I could have also been feeling the heavy vibrations of the percussive instruments and dancing. I’m still trying figure what it was that I sensed; the other students felt nothing.

How can Satanic forces remain where the Lord is glorified? This is a contradiction. The Name of the Lord drives everything inauspicious away. This is known from all monotheistic traditions.

>Now, while the spiritual aspect of this outreach should be and probably is alarming to Christians, we should also be concerned that an organization, such as this, is doing what Christ has called the church to do.

I see that some Christians and Muslims are always looking for 'competitors' to evangelize but without understanding who they are this often leads to unfortunate situations seen e.g. in missionary record in India. Why not learn first and thus find out that there are fellow monotheists all over world, devotees of One Lord? (And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. John 10:16) You actually hint on this yourself: 'I believe that there is much that we can learn from this culture and faith.' Wishing you all the best in
this.

>I might aspire to love my neighbor as myself or to love the Lord with all my heart, soul, and mind, but I will always love in a self-consuming manner trying to get what I can out of it, rather than the love of self-sacrifice that Christ displayed in glory at the cross.

The goal of all devotional monotheistic traditions is to transcend the selfish imitation of
love and achieve the real love. See Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.

Let me finish with a NT text which is several times closely repeated in Caitanya Caritamrta (Adi 5.234, 13.45, Madhya 14.202, 16.289, 20.385, 20.395):

And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. (John 21:25)

All the best in your spiritual life. Hare Krishna.
your servant, bhakta Jan